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Most of you feel like family to me. This group has always felt like a family. I wanted to share something with you yesterday but I didn't. I've been sort of stepping in and out of surreality today and it's time for me to tell you what happened.

About a month after I moved into this apartment, a big African American woman named Sonya moved into the apartment next door. We became fast friends and she always thought it was funny how much I liked black music when she would hear me blaring Marvin Gaye out of my car stereo. She knew almost nothing about it.

She was carrying way too much weight and smoked a lot of cigarettes and was an alcoholic who drank all day in her house and all night. It was usually beer during the day and then harder stuff at night. And a few months ago she was diagnosed with congestive heart failure, which my father and older sister also had died from.

She didn't keep her doctor appointments and she didn't quit smoking or stop drinking or try to improve her health in any way, but she seemed just fine. Until yesterday.

Her boyfriend came home from work and after dropping the groceries off on the kitchen table he saw her on the floor in her bedroom, not breathing. He ran to my door and yelled "I think Sonya's dead." I practically flew off my couch and into her house and I could see that she wasn't breathing but I still dialed 911 and babbled on the phone to the operator who wanted me to do CPR. I couldn't have done CPR on her if she had been alive because she was too big for me even to roll her over onto her back and there was no room between the bed and the dresser where she had fallen out of bed onto her face. But Antonio and I figured out pretty quickly that she was already in rigor mortis

We spent the next six hours trying to find a place for her to go without being able to contact any of her family members because she was estranged from them. We called everybody in her phone contacts and nobody knew anything. The police came and eventually the medical examiner's van arrived and one of the cops and the medical examiner assistant wheeled her out.

Antonio stayed over in her apartment. He didn't really live there but he was there most of the time. I went to my apartment and just felt so weird. So Antonio and I got together to chat a few times during the night until it was bedtime. I took her kitten home with me because she had nowhere to go. The kitten was just so hyper she kept me awake most of the night and by 4 a.m. I was up and went outside and send a text message to Antonio to come out and talk. He had to go to work and leave at 5:45 a.m. so I knew I was in the zone.

It's just keeps getting more surreal. She and I were really good friends and we always shared food when we cooked. I'd bring a plate to her or she'd bring a plate to me. But whereas it would take me a day or two to eat a plate of her food. She didn't have any problems with large portions because she was already overweight by about 50 or 60 lb.

I think the reason I'm feeling so weird about it is that the evening of the 23rd I went to my son's house because it was his birthday. It's unusual for me to go out at night and I stayed out until about 9:30. When I got home and started to walk to my apartment I saw that her door was slightly ajar and I tiptoed past because I just didn't want to have a conversation with her that late at night and I didn't want to lose my buzz from the wonderful time I had just spent with my son and his girlfriend, watching a movie. So I didn't stop and say hi. And of course I never got another chance to do that.

I'm wondering if anybody here can share with me anything similar that has happened to them. I have never seeing a dead body close up and I have never seen a friend dead on the floor of her apartment. The entire experience was horrible beyond description. But I just shifted into Problem Solver mode which is what I'm really good at and I made things happen and I helped Antonio focus and I was able to talk to the police and the medical examiner about her history and generally add to her story. And today I called medical contact she had on cards in her wallet. Most of them were cardio Pulmonary Specialists at various hospitals. But that is just a facade I put on to keep everyone from seeing that I am screaming inside. Once I finally got to bed alone with nobody to talk to I just can't tell you the feeling I was having. I feel like the world has ended in a way. And 2020 has been such a weird horrible year that this was actually kind of the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

So I'm reaching out to anyone here. You can respond on this thread or you can message me privately. I have already talk to everyone in my family and they just didn't seem to think it was that horrible, or maybe they just didn't want to expand emotional energy on it right now.

I hope that you won't be that way. If you have something to share with me, please do. I placed her cat with a neighbor today and have been helping Antonio take things out and put them in boxes. He's going to stay in her apartment for the rest of the month because the rent is paid. I actually had to do some intervening with the building manager here. I wish I had never told her that Sonya had died. She could not care less about that. She was such a bitch to me. All she could talk about was that Antonio wasn't allowed to be there he isn't on the lease and that she had called the Housing Association to let them know and she had absolutely no sympathy for him. I really wanted to punch her in the nose. In addition to being Sonya's boyfriend, Antonio was also a caregiver to her, running errands for, buying things for her, being there for her. I went back to my apartment instead.

I know this is the kind of situation where your friends are really sorted out and you know who is good and caring and who is wrapped up in himself or herself and could not care less. I'm just having a really hard time with it. I keep thinking of Sonia, downtown in that cold morgue, all alone.

She was only 53 years old.
 
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Most of you feel like family to me. This group has always felt like a family. I wanted to share something with you yesterday but I didn't. I've been sort of stepping in and out of surreality today and it's time for me to tell you what happened.

About a month after I moved into this apartment, a big African American woman named Sonya moved into the apartment next door. We became fast friends and she always thought it was funny how much I liked black music when she would hear me blaring Marvin Gaye out of my car stereo. She knew almost nothing about it.

She was carrying way too much weight and smoked a lot of cigarettes and was an alcoholic who drank all day in her house and all night. It was usually beer during the day and then harder stuff at night. And a few months ago she was diagnosed with congestive heart failure, which my father and older sister also had died from.

She didn't keep her doctor appointments and she didn't quit smoking or stop drinking or try to improve her health in any way, but she seemed just fine. Until yesterday.

Her boyfriend came home from work and after dropping the groceries off on the kitchen table he saw her on the floor in her bedroom, not breathing. He ran to my door and yelled "I think Sonya's dead." I practically flew off my couch and into her house and I could see that she wasn't breathing but I still dialed 911 and babbled on the phone to the operator who wanted me to do CPR. I couldn't have done CPR on her if she had been alive because she was too big for me even to roll her over onto her back and there was no room between the bed and the dresser where she had fallen out of bed onto her face. But Antonio and I figured out pretty quickly that she was already in rigor mortis

We spent the next six hours trying to find a place for her to go without being able to contact any of her family members because she was estranged from them. We called everybody in her phone contacts and nobody knew anything. The police came and eventually the medical examiner's van arrived and one of the cops and the medical examiner assistant wheeled her out.

Antonio stayed over in her apartment. He didn't really live there but he was there most of the time. I went to my apartment and just felt so weird. So Antonio and I got together to chat a few times during the night until it was bedtime. I took her kitten home with me because she had nowhere to go. The kitten was just so hyper she kept me awake most of the night and by 4 a.m. I was up and went outside and send a text message to Antonio to come out and talk. He had to go to work and leave at 5:45 a.m. so I knew I was in the zone.

It's just keeps getting more surreal. She and I were really good friends and we always shared food when we cooked. I'd bring a plate to her or she'd bring a plate to me. But whereas it would take me a day or two to eat a plate of her food. She didn't have any problems with large portions because she was already overweight by about 50 or 60 lb.

I think the reason I'm feeling so weird about it is that the evening of the 23rd I went to my son's house because it was his birthday. It's unusual for me to go out at night and I stayed out until about 9:30. When I got home and started to walk to my apartment I saw that her door was slightly ajar and I tiptoed past because I just didn't want to have a conversation with her that late at night and I didn't want to lose my buzz from the wonderful time I had just spent with my son and his girlfriend, watching a movie. So I didn't stop and say hi. And of course I never got another chance to do that.

I'm wondering if anybody here can share with me anything similar that has happened to them. I have never seeing a dead body close up and I have never seen a friend dead on the floor of her apartment. The entire experience was horrible beyond description. But I just shifted into Problem Solver mode which is what I'm really good at and I made things happen and I helped Antonio focus and I was able to talk to the police and the medical examiner about her history and generally add to her story. And today I called medical contact she had on cards in her wallet. Most of them were cardio Pulmonary Specialists at various hospitals. But that is just a facade I put on to keep everyone from seeing that I am screaming inside. Once I finally got to bed alone with nobody to talk to I just can't tell you the feeling I was having. I feel like the world has ended in a way. And 2020 has been such a weird horrible year that this was actually kind of the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

So I'm reaching out to anyone here. You can respond on this thread or you can message me privately. I have already talk to everyone in my family and they just didn't seem to think it was that horrible, or maybe they just didn't want to expand emotional energy on it right now.

I hope that you won't be that way. If you have something to share with me, please do. I placed her cat with a neighbor today and have been helping Antonio take things out and put them in boxes. He's going to stay in her apartment for the rest of the month because the rent is paid. I actually had to do some intervening with the building manager here. I wish I had never told her that Sonya had died. She could not care less about that. She was such a bitch to me. All she could talk about was that Antonio wasn't allowed to be there he isn't on the lease and that she had called the Housing Association to let them know and she had absolutely no sympathy for him. I really wanted to punch her in the nose. In addition to being Sonya's boyfriend, Antonio was also a caregiver to her, running errands for, buying things for her, being there for her. I went back to my apartment instead.

I know this is the kind of situation where your friends are really sorted out and you know who is good and caring and who is wrapped up in himself or herself and could not care less. I'm just having a really hard time with it. I keep thinking of Sonia, downtown in that cold morgue, all alone.

She was only 53 years old.

Diane I’m so saddened to hear about your friend’s passing. I truly believe there was a reason that you connected with her. You have her a true friendship of care and concern for the time you knew her. Please cherish that and the fact that you are a stream of support for everyone you encounter. A true angel
 
Diane -

I'm so sorry for your loss and having to go through what you did.

I have a wonderful life long friend. I've known her over 40 years. We were in each others weddings - we were at the hospital when the others kids was born. We're god-parents to each others kids. We've always been close to her family. We usually got together every weekend to cook or bowl or what have you.

Everything seemed fine then her husband had a massive heart attack that required a quadruple by-pass surgery and 2 stints. This happened to him when he was 35. He was told he couldn't work anymore after the heart attack and he began having other health issues as time went on. With him not working they lost their home and had to move.

Our children got older - their boys each had a son. They had 2 beautiful grandsons. Life seemed to be getting better. My friend even told me things seemed better.

Her husband wasn't feeling better - he was acting like he felt better. I bought a train table for the grandsons birthday and called her to see when I could bring it over. She told me to take it over because David was home. She said she'd call him and let him know I was on my way over. I went to their home and as I got out of the car I noticed that something was caught in storm door and it wasn't completely closed. I opened the storm door and something fell out onto the porch. When I glanced down - I knew it was part of a face. I looked into the house and he was dead. He'd committed suicide. He shot himself in the head with a shot gun. I called 911 - I was trying to explain what happened and the person I was talking to asked me "is he breathing?" I kept trying to explain that there was hair, blood, brain matter, splattered on the inside walls and door and the top of his skull had been blown off - so I said "there is no way he's breathing the top of his &&*$#%@ head is missing." I was asked to check for a pulse - I had to check it on his foot because of all the damage to his face and head.

I was literally trapped inside their house. I couldn't leave because I knew walking back through the evidence would mess up the crime scene. I was questioned at length by a detective. I explained multiple times what had happened and why I was there. It looked like a suicide all of the evidence said it was a suicide.

The police were curious as to why I was so calm. I explained that my life involved things of this nature. I used to take crime scene photos - and sketch crime scenes for court. It wasn't until I was allowed out of the house that everything hit me. It's one thing to see strangers but it's a totally different thing to see someone you love and care about laying there like that.

While all of this is going on his wife was stuck in traffic because of all the police, emt's, you name it they were there.

He had written notes to his wife, boys, and grandsons and then killed himself. In the note to his wife he said that now he's dead she could collect the life insurance and live a normal life without having to worry about trying to make ends meet all the time. They'd cancelled the life insurance policy months before. He had forgotten.

His wife is a totally different person now. She doesn't go out much - I see her a couple of times a month if I'm lucky. She spends her days taking care of her grandsons and now a granddaughter.

This is NOT something I talk about easily. It stops me in my tracks every year on the day he died.
 
Thank you, Shawna and Tracey. I really appreciate it your condolences. And I appreciated your story, Tracey, about the shotgun suicide. I walked by a shotgun suicide on the lawn of the neighbor of the house I was going to move into, in the dark. I couldn't see much and I'm glad I couldn't. All I could see was the police surrounding him. And a friend of mine, his boyfriend committed suicide by shotgun behind the couch, while James was in town. That was a horrifying thing for him to come home to. Everything was "painted" onto the wall. I think the shotgun suicide has to be the absolute worst thing anyone could see. And I know that you understand how I felt now, considering everything you've had to see.
 
Diane, I am so very sorry for your loss. Being on the scene when someone has just died is harder than one can imagine. I am so sorry you had to go through that but at the same time Antonio is fortunate that you were there in his time of need. Without family to call upon, you were there to help take care of what needed to be done. That is a true friend. And please don't feel bad about not wanting to visit the night after you were with your family. I am sure your friend would have understood, had she known. This was a traumatic event you've been through, it will take time for it to not be constantly on your mind. I hope you can find peace in knowing that you were a special person in your friends life.

By the way, my daughter who was 17 at the time was the one who found my dad who had passed away during the night in his apartment. She had the worst nagging feeling and she had to go check on him. Her brother drove her. Sure enough she found him dead. I can't tell you how horrible I felt that she was the one to find him. She was very close to him and also has emotional issues. I would have given anything for me to be the one to find him instead of her. I can only imagine how hard that is for a 17 year old. Life is not easy by any means.

Diane, please take care of yourself. Try to find something relaxing to do, you have been through a lot.
 
I need and appreciate the love you show to me. I go in and out of horror.

I didn't need a sleeping pill last night because the trauma took hold of me. i died a little, and keep thinking she's going to knock on my door.

From the time I was 17 until I was in my sixties, 60 0f my crowd had died--suicide, overdose, horrific car crashes, asthma attacks, and cancer. Some of them were younger than me. I can't describe them.

My motivation for sharing was to make it personal to those with comorbidities. Don't allow it to get worse. Have the the surgery. Save your life right now. The world needs you to be here.

Most people don't discover CHF until it is too late. If you're pre-diabetic and end up full diabetic, you will have one amputation after another. I have an aunt with stumps, having taken her bottom legs off because of diabetes. My sister was having toes removed, one by one and the next step was to cut her foot off at the ankle. But nothing worked. It was her failure to manage her diabetes that killed her. She was only 5 years older than me.

I rejoice in your choices. You will not end up like Sonja. But love everybody and love yourself. And take care of yourself. You will live as long as you want to. Thanks also to Judy.

I'm going to do my best but I have a feeling this is not going to be a cakewalk.
 
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