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Loosing a ton within a month.

Fosgate

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Growing up slim and at 6'4 190lbs I was skinny as a flag pole as several other family members do until I joined the Army. The Army taught me how to eat and I had to since I had almost no fat on my frame, I needed the energy. I loved the outdoors used to workout like a fiend while I was in service for 4 years until 1996. I left the army but the eating habits stayed. As I occupied a desk I only had my outdoor activities and back then I didn't mind the break from the forced early morning workouts at a busy gym. Weight slowly creaped up as well as my height as I grew to 6'7 supporting on average up to 300lbs. Then in 2011 my injuries in the Army started to creep up on me as I started to have difficulty walking. I spent a year and a half through rehab and cortisone injections into my knees and heels. During that time my weight shot up to 435 and I went through the VA's pre bariatric program at the time and pulled out after a friend got me into powerlifting while working around being more gentile to the knees and feet. At the same time I watched a documentary called "The Perfect Human Diet." At the time for me it was great. I cleansed myself of the addiction to sugars and easily regulating my intake of anything that converted to sugar in the body (Starches). While making simple, easy satisfying meals, I was eating far below the calories of a power lifter. I was making immense gains in the gym by nearly doubling the weight I was lifting every two to three weeks and lost 150lbs in 3 months at the age of 41.

Unfortunately, I moved for a job and fell off the wagon in both diet and exercise mostly due to my hectic new job working 12-14hr days 6 months of my work year. Despite this I met a gorgeous slim woman 10yrs my younger that saw past the weight and we were married 3 years ago. She got me back into the gym and the weight started to come off again until I dislocated my knee cap. The prognosis was not good as degeneration in both knees are setting in. I've known since high school bad knees were in my future but I did not know they would progress so quickly. At about the same time I required my gallbladder to be removed. Several months later one of the incisions herniated but thankfully did not strangulate an intestine. Then about a month later Covid hit and I started to pack on the weight again. At this time I went back to the VA. I expressed my concerns, While I want to be alive to give my wife the child we both want, I do not want to be miserable and eat like a bird like I see some of my friends who have had bariatric surgery. I love to cook a variety of foods from German to SE Asia and Spanish along with smoking meat, fish and veggies on my Traeger. I got into cooking foods I would normally go sit down in a restaurant for and pay good money for food that was either too salty, buttery or sugary for me. I can thank quitting smoking in 2009 to the increased sensitivity in my taste buds for that. (Though I still love a good cigar about once a month) That said, I previously worked at a hospital and sat in on amputations from diabetes and saw 2 people I grew up with die after missing an injection and the next one killed them. So the motivation was there to get this done.

I spent the time, going through the classes again. Sat down with the surgeon and the decision was made. Both of us agreed on a Duodenal switch with the roux en y procedure performed via robot. Thinking long term would be the best for keeping weight off and decreased sensitivity of foods. I went to all water on 6/23, weighed in at 492 on day of surgery on the 25th. I got out of surgery and put in my hospital room about 6pm and I went to sleep about 9pm to wake up at 2am, wide awake. I called the nurses and got up by myself while they hovered around me to use the restroom for the first time. I then proceeded to walk around the ward with my escort while bumping into an old classmate I had not seen for 30yrs as she was the RN in charge. I then laid in bed for a couple hours watching TV until falling back to sleep sometime after 4am. Got up the next morning and went for another walk, saw my surgeon as he checked my abdomen drain. I told him honestly I felt better than when I had my gallbladder removed and sent home same day. I'm not big into needing pain killers as I skipped a few scheduled shots until I need them. I felt alert and spent most of my day watching tv and only slept maybe 8-10hrs the next night.

Second morning in the hospital was pretty much the same. Saw the surgeons PA on the drain and condition, Had a slight acid reflux during the night and a couple swigs of warm mint caffeine free tea did the trick. Drain was removed and bandaged up. Surgeon came back and looked me over and my charts and asked if I wanted to go home the next day. I think getting poked with a needle every 2 hours helps immensely in influencing the decision to break out. I showered that night and the next morning before putting on my clothes and picking up my discharge papers and walking escorted through the hospital out to my ride. I was not yet released off my clear liquid diet until my 1 week follow up on June 4th. No problem, but i found at home that I really did not care for the taste of sipping broths and opted for simply my pills, vitamins and MIO vitamin water additive. I kept my hydration up and oddly enough I felt alert and still only slept 8-10hrs a day. However, I didn't have much gas in the tank to exercise as I discovered I would pull up a chair to cook my wife her breakfast. The day before I went into my follow-up I changed the air filter on my wifes car and a couple other minor things. I was sweating by the end like I had been working out for an hour.

At the follow-up the next morning I weighed in at 464! It was also discovered some concern around my abdominal hernia that there was some slight swelling and inflammation so a CT Scan was ordered. I went in the following day and had the CT Scan performed and the next day on the 4th we reviewed. All was well, going to monitor for a year at which time they will do a tummy tuck of the excess skin. I had also lost another 4 lbs since my last weigh in. The Dr said I looked very surprising in relation to others having bariatric and said I seemed more like a month out. In discussion of finding things to try and eat most everything was geared toward people who had either the Roux En Y procedure or the Duodenal Switch procedure but not both. The Surgeon and his PA both encouraged me to not only move to phase two but advised it's going to be an experiment and to even try solids stating I will probably progress much faster. An hour later I went to the nutritionist who upon seeing me immediately said I looked much better than most. We sat down and talked about what I had planned for food and my supplement to which she was in all agreement. I cant say anything negative about my surgical team as even though my next follow-up is not until the 22nd, we have been communicating via online and text directly to and from my surgeon. I only found I had one bout of acid reflux during the night but I found I did not have my mouth guard in when sleeping. I sleep with a cpap and a resmed P-10 which is only a nasal pillow (I love it) and I wear a mouth bite guard to promote keeping my mouth closed and protect my teeth from grinding. Without the guard my mouth opens and creates an open channel to the stomach with my cpap blowing now my airway.

My first solid food experiment was just a couple lightly fried pieces of Spam. Went down easy and so that evening I fried 3 jumbo shrimp in garlic and butter with the shell on, peeled the shell and took them in small bites. no problem. Did the same the following day. Then Nepalese Coconut Korma Shrimp in a mild curry. Again no problem, Greek Gyros Meat in tzatziki sauce, Sliced roast beef. All the while I am having a protein shake sometime in the first half of my day and the later. I prefer the Orgain as I used that when I was lifting and found it even back then was the easiest on my digestive system, was all natural and the vanilla bean and chocolate/ Chocolate peanut butters tasted great. I use the unflavored to sprinkle in a sugar free Jello Pudding and do not even notice it. So with that I'm easily keeping my protein between 70-100 a day. Yesterday was my first day of adding some veggies in the mix. For lunch I had about half a serving of Dinty Moore Beef stew to test the mushy veggies. It went down easy so for the evening I went to a sit down restaurant with friends, Ordered a Ground Buffalo Steak with onion and mushrooms sauté on top with broccoli. I managed half the steak with mushrooms and a couple slices of the carnalized onion, I chewed the top off a broccoli and had a sugar free fudge pop for desert when I got home. all went down easy and today I certainly feel more strength. The weird thing is to top it off, is I sip water or caffeine free unsweetened tea all through the meal without any need to rush to the bathroom during or even later. As well as things are going I'm still being cautious as I use a baby spoon and fork at home. This morning I had scrambled eggs with Rotel diced tomatoes and peppers. Today I'm going to finish off that steak and little broccoli, but I whipped up some unagi (Sweet Japanese eel sauce) that I am going to try on a little bit of fish for lunch. Tomorrow I will try some Thai Lemongrass paste on baked fish and a chute off asparagus. I hope that soon I can smoke some fish and veggies on the smoker and progress to some tender Texas style brisket, ribs and pork butt by the end of summer.

So far I am happy with my decision. Portion size is under control and I seem to be quickly progressing toward a normal diet currently loosing approx 1 1/2 to 2lbs a day. The need for proper nutrients, hydration has me going back to "the perfect human diet" and I'm loving it so far. I look in the mirror and notice my face is already much narrower and the wife has commented she can see the muscle in my legs much more noticeably now. I'm just wishing now I would have taken some before photos.
 
... working around being more gentile to the knees and feet.
Actually, I try to be more Jewish... ;)

Just kidding ya... you know, Gentile, gentle...

I think you broke a group record for longest post ever! But it's really great to read your journey. It's unique. No member here has ever posted in such detail.

If you're interested, we have a recipes forum and if you feel like sharing, please do!

Congratulations on your weight loss and welcome to your group.
 
I can relate to the military influencing your eating. I was in the Marines and ate like crazy, who knows how many calories per day, but I was also running every day, and 18-22 years old, so that probably helped a lot. After I got out though, I kept eating a lot, weight gained quickly and food quality went down even further and the weight got higher.

It looks like you have yourself a vision and a plan. Good luck!
 
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Actually, I try to be more Jewish... ;)

Just kidding ya... you know, Gentile, gentle...

I think you broke a group record for longest post ever! But it's really great to read your journey. It's unique. No member here has ever posted in such detail.

If you're interested, we have a recipes forum and if you feel like sharing, please do!

Congratulations on your weight loss and welcome to your group.
OMG Diane you share the same silly sense of humor with me. :D Jeff & I toss punny comments like that to each other all the time!
Btw please Fosgate share some of those recipes with us. They sound so good!
 
This is so exciting! Take some photos and measurements now - you'll find them really amazing to look back at and review and they can be really inspirational for others who you may essentially encourage as they are on their own journeys. Also, keeping track of the visuals and measurements can help when you have any brief "stalls" in the future because there may sometimes be times when the scale hasn't moved, but the inches and the photos prove that things in your body are still changing.

Congrats on a successful surgery and wonderful progression with your first few weeks!
 
1 month post follow-up is tomorrow. I think some chins are going to drop. They gave me free reign to try solid food as I feel fit as of June 6th. I'm still to chicken to try chicken.

I've been able to drink water while eating with no issue, in fact it helps me burp to offset any gas pressure if needed. The toughest so far to eat is probably the Gyros Meat from Gyros Hub (local). more spices maybe that trigger gas, but after I burp a couple times within 10min I'm fine. The Gyros meat from Arbys goes down very easy though.

Not sure if Planko is alright yet but I have been thinking of cooking some calamari or shrimp with it. Also considering corn tortillas/chips/taco shells also small amounts of Basmati rice, Thai Jasmine Rice, Sushi Rice.

Foods Eaten
Spam-Lightly fried
Jumbo Shrimp garlic & butter 3-8 per serving
Cream of wheat (Variety of flavors)
Coconut Prawn Korma (Jumbo Shrimp in mild sweet indian curry)
Ground Buffalo Steak with sauteed Mushroom and onions w Broccoli (tops)
Gyros meat with tzatziki (cucumber) sauce
Dinty Moore Beef Stew
Vietmanese Pho Soup (No Noodles)-Shrimp, fish balls &calamari (with bean sprouts and Housin Sauce)
sliced Roast Beef w cheddar cheese
Beef Patty w ketchup & mustard
Sliced Pickle (both kosher and vlasic dill)
Fresh Mozzerella Cheese melted with ground tomatoes, basil garlic & oregano
Scrambled eggs with Rotell diced tomatoes & Green Chiles (Mild)
Black Mussels in Garlic butter wine sauce (alcohol cooked off)

Liquids
Caffine free Mint tea
Bai Coconut water
apple juice (2-4oz limit)
Cranberry juice
Almond Milk unsweetened
60-81oz water daily

Treats
Dairy Queen Mango Lemonaide Slush (once)
Sugar free pudding
Sugar Free fudgsicle
Sugar free Popsicle

Fruit
Banana
Dole Mixed fruit in juice cup

Protein additive
Orgain Protein shake (Chocolate & Vanilla Bean) 21g protein, 6g prebiotic fiber, 0g sugar per serving
Orgain Protein unflavored (Add to pudding, cream of wheat etc) 21g protein, 4 g fiber, 0g sugar per serving
Orgain Plant Based Protein 6g Prebiotic fiber, 21g protein, 1g sugar Chocolate peanut butter
Orgain Protein +50 Superfoods Plant Based Protein 6g Prebiotic fiber, 21g protein, 1g sugar Chocolate Fudge
 
1 month post follow-up is tomorrow. I think some chins are going to drop. They gave me free reign to try solid food as I feel fit as of June 6th. I'm still to chicken to try chicken.

I've been able to drink water while eating with no issue, in fact it helps me burp to offset any gas pressure if needed. The toughest so far to eat is probably the Gyros Meat from Gyros Hub (local). more spices maybe that trigger gas, but after I burp a couple times within 10min I'm fine. The Gyros meat from Arbys goes down very easy though.

Not sure if Planko is alright yet but I have been thinking of cooking some calamari or shrimp with it. Also considering corn tortillas/chips/taco shells also small amounts of Basmati rice, Thai Jasmine Rice, Sushi Rice.

Foods Eaten
Spam-Lightly fried
Jumbo Shrimp garlic & butter 3-8 per serving
Cream of wheat (Variety of flavors)
Coconut Prawn Korma (Jumbo Shrimp in mild sweet indian curry)
Ground Buffalo Steak with sauteed Mushroom and onions w Broccoli (tops)
Gyros meat with tzatziki (cucumber) sauce
Dinty Moore Beef Stew
Vietmanese Pho Soup (No Noodles)-Shrimp, fish balls &calamari (with bean sprouts and Housin Sauce)
sliced Roast Beef w cheddar cheese
Beef Patty w ketchup & mustard
Sliced Pickle (both kosher and vlasic dill)
Fresh Mozzerella Cheese melted with ground tomatoes, basil garlic & oregano
Scrambled eggs with Rotell diced tomatoes & Green Chiles (Mild)
Black Mussels in Garlic butter wine sauce (alcohol cooked off)

Liquids
Caffine free Mint tea
Bai Coconut water
apple juice (2-4oz limit)
Cranberry juice
Almond Milk unsweetened
60-81oz water daily

Treats
Dairy Queen Mango Lemonaide Slush (once)
Sugar free pudding
Sugar Free fudgsicle
Sugar free Popsicle

Fruit
Banana
Dole Mixed fruit in juice cup

Protein additive
Orgain Protein shake (Chocolate & Vanilla Bean) 21g protein, 6g prebiotic fiber, 0g sugar per serving
Orgain Protein unflavored (Add to pudding, cream of wheat etc) 21g protein, 4 g fiber, 0g sugar per serving
Orgain Plant Based Protein 6g Prebiotic fiber, 21g protein, 1g sugar Chocolate peanut butter
Orgain Protein +50 Superfoods Plant Based Protein 6g Prebiotic fiber, 21g protein, 1g sugar Chocolate Fudge
Mint tea has become my best friend! I add a little extra water to it and pour it over a big tumbler of ice then add 1 pack of sweetener. So good! I hope I can eat even 1/3 of what you have after the 1st month. That’s impressive. I probably will stay away from anything fried though or anything with batter on it but I love grilled everything so it works :). Good luck at your appointment tomorrow! Mine is in a couple weeks, I’ve been losing pretty fast as well so I’m excited for doctor to see my progress.
 
Mint tea has become my best friend! I add a little extra water to it and pour it over a big tumbler of ice then add 1 pack of sweetener. So good! I hope I can eat even 1/3 of what you have after the 1st month. That’s impressive. I probably will stay away from anything fried though or anything with batter on it but I love grilled everything so it works :). Good luck at your appointment tomorrow! Mine is in a couple weeks, I’ve been losing pretty fast as well so I’m excited for doctor to see my progress.

I'm so glad the mint tea is working for you like it did for me! I'm careful as to how far I fry something. I don't let a hard crust develope on it but enough for some color and cook it through. Cooking with cast iron helps as it radiates heat deeper into whatever is being cooked than a non stick pan.
 
That visit went well. Asked him about starting to try Planko, Corn Tortilla, rice, hydrated chia seeds and a couple other things and they said fine. Even suggested that I try a small bit of flour tortilla and a little bit of lettuce when I feel like. They really liked my menu options and I told them about using coconut cream and almond milk instead of heavy cream in my cooking and use of coconut palm sugar and processing all that smoothly. He commented he was getting hungry looking at my list at some of the items and asked what else I have planned. I told him I'm making yogurt tonight to make non dairy, frozen yogurt tomorrow (have not decided on flavor, maybe Ube), for tonight doing maybe fish with lemon grass or unagi sauce from scratch and tomorrow doing North African Meat sauce using bison and couscous
 
Down 73lbs since surgery May 25th. I'm surprised at 48 how much my skin is tightening. I thought I'd get a lot of flap around my biceps a week or two ago and it was looking that way but today it seems to have tightened up and the flap that was developing is gone. Lately it's an ongoing confusion of the body adjustment.
 
Down 73lbs since surgery May 25th. I'm surprised at 48 how much my skin is tightening. I thought I'd get a lot of flap around my biceps a week or two ago and it was looking that way but today it seems to have tightened up and the flap that was developing is gone. Lately it's an ongoing confusion of the body adjustment.
I think a lot of this has to do with genetics as well and how heavy you were prior surgery. My skin is shrinking pretty well but I expect to have some lose skin. This is another reason I won’t be getting skin removal surgery but also because I do NOT want to put my body through another surgery. Best wishes!
 
Uhm, Fosgate, where do you live exactly? I may need this info for sneaking in for meals. I won't eat much, I understand my portion sizes will be substantially reduced.

Apparently I do take up more than the desired amount of space currently, but I am going to be working on that!

I hope you know I am only kidding and am not a weird stalker woman. Well, to be honest I am a weird woman, just not a stalker, not lately at least. Obesity has limited by ability to "stalk".

Seriously, you are doing fantastic! Your meals sound mouth watering, especially to those of us who are looking forward to eating nothing for weeks and weeks.

You should consider writing a bariatric cookbook, or packaging bariatric meals (you must be familiar with MREs) but not pre-made, just all the ingredients and instructions delivered to homes, like all those other programs advertised.

I think it would be great to have something like that for bariatric patients.
 
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